Leading For Wellness

EP 27 - The Science Behind Nutraceuticals - Jeremy Bartos, Ph.D.

Jeremy Bartos, Ph.D., is the Chief Science Officer at INW, a contract manufacturing conglomerate specializing in dry dosage forms, liquids, softgels, and functional bars. He has over 18 years of experience working in the dietary supplements industry in a variety of R&D, product development, innovation, business development and sales roles. He specializes in probiotics, having formulated probiotic dietary supplements that have generated close to $1 Billion in sales to date and is an elected member of the International Probiotics Association’s Board of Directors and Executive Advisory Committee Member for the United Natural Products Alliance (UNPA). In his current role, he utilizes his knowledge of the scientific and clinical benefits of nutraceutical ingredients to create new finished product solutions for the dietary supplement, food, beverage and personal care industries, specializing in probiotic, sports nutrition, and health condition-specific innovative solutions. 
His accolades include authoring peer-reviewed publications, co-inventing numerous natural products patents and launching both branded proprietary ingredients and successful finished products tailored for various dietary supplement markets. 
Dr. Bartos received his B.S. in Ecology and Evolutionary Biology from the University of Rochester and his Ph.D. in Molecular Biology from Roswell Park Cancer Institute, a division of the State University of New York at Buffalo. 
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In this conversation, Liesl interviews Jeremy Bartos, PhD, the Chief Science Officer of INW, about his unique journey from the pharmaceutical industry to the nutraceutical space. Jeremy shares insights on the differences between these fields, the importance of product development, and the role of science in marketing nutraceuticals. He discusses the impact of AI on consumer behavior, the integration of traditional medicine with modern science, and emerging trends in the nutraceutical industry. The conversation emphasizes the need for real science behind products and the importance of education in consumer health practices. 
Chapters 
00:00 Journey from Pharmaceuticals to Nutraceuticals 
05:08 The Role of Product Development in Nutraceuticals 
10:21 Understanding R&D and Product Development 
15:14 The Importance of Science in Marketing Claims 
18:40 Navigating Consumer Behavior in the Digital Age 
20:33 The Impact of AI on Product Development 
24:10 Integrating Traditional Medicine into Modern Formulations 
29:40 Trends in the Nutraceutical Industry 
37:45 Personal Health Practices and Industry Insights 
 
Contact Jeremy Bartos: 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremybartos/ 
jbartos@inwmfg.com 
https://www.inwmfg.com/
Contact Liesl Bernard: 
liesl@leadingforwellness.com 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lieslbernard/  
www.leadingforwellness.com 

EP 26 - Navigating the Dietary Supplement Landscape - Duffy MacKay

In this conversation, Liesl interviews Duffy MacKay, Senior Vice President of Dietary Supplements for the Consumer Healthcare Products Association (CHPA).
Duffy shares his extensive background in the supplement industry, discussing the evolution of dietary supplements, the role of CHPA in ensuring quality and access to self-care products, and the challenges faced by the industry today.  
He emphasizes the importance of education for consumers, the need for stricter regulations, and the future focus on integrating dietary supplements into overall wellness. Duffy also shares his personal health practices and the significance of community in navigating the industry. 
Chapters 
00:00 Introduction to Duffy MacKay and His Journey 
03:08 The Role of CHPA in Dietary Supplements 
06:11 Consumer Access and Product Quality Initiatives 
08:55 Challenges Facing the Dietary Supplement Industry 
11:55 The Impact of Social Media on Consumer Trust 
15:05 Future Focus of CHPA and Regulatory Changes 
18:06 Navigating the Dietary Supplement Landscape 
20:48 Personal Health Practices of Duffy MacKay 
23:53 Conclusion and Future Events 
Contact Duffy MacKay: 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/duffy-mackay-6ab19b12/ 
Dmackay@chpa.org 
https://www.chpa.org/ 
Contact Liesl Bernard: 
liesl@leadingforwellness.com 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lieslbernard/  
www.leadingforwellness.com 

EP 25 - Unlocking the Future of Wellness: Trends in Supplements - Scott Dicker

Scott Dicker is a recognized thought leader in the natural products and active nutrition industries, known for transforming complex market data into clear, actionable insights. As a leading voice in the space, Scott is a frequent keynote speaker at major industry conferences, where he helps brands, retailers, suppliers, and investors understand not just where the market is today — but where it’s heading next. 
With a background rooted in data‑driven analysis and strategic storytelling, Scott has built a reputation for spotting emerging trends early and translating them into practical strategies that drive growth. His work at SPINS, where he serves as Sr. Director of Market Insights, has made him a go‑to expert for companies seeking to navigate the rapidly evolving health, wellness, and CPG landscape. 
Whether he’s breaking down the latest consumer behavior shifts, forecasting category growth, or revealing the next big opportunity in wellness, Scott brings clarity, depth, and forward‑thinking perspective to every conversation. His engaging style and ability to make data meaningful have made him a sought‑after guest for podcasts, panels, and stages across the country. 
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In this episode, Liesl Bernard welcomes Scott Dicker, the Senior Director for Market Insights at SPINS, to discuss the latest trends in the supplement and wellness industry. Scott shares his unconventional journey from being a sports nutritionist to leading market insights at SPINS, where he analyzes consumer behavior and industry trends. He emphasizes the importance of understanding how shoppers' preferences are evolving and how brands can adapt to meet these changes. Scott also highlights the release of SPINS' 2026 prediction report, which identifies key trends such as conscious consumption, anywhere commerce, and the rise of non-human participation in product discovery. 
Chapters 
00:00 Introduction to Trends in Supplements 
04:27 Scott Dicker's Journey in Nutrition and Data 
08:25 Key Insights from the 2026 Prediction Report 
12:50 Emerging Categories: Joint Health, Energy, and Hormones 
19:29 The Rise of Personalized Nutrition 
22:24 Trends in Sleep and Mood Support 
27:35 Final Thoughts and Personal Health Practices
 
Contact Scott Dicker: 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-dicker-6a83b965/ 
https://www.spins.com/resources/report/2026-trend-predictions/ 
 
Contact Liesl Bernard: 
liesl@leadingforwellness.com 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lieslbernard/  
www.leadingforwellness.com 

EP 24 - The Herbal Pharmacist: A Journey of Transformation - David Foreman

David Foreman, RPh, widely recognized as The Herbal Pharmacist®, is a pioneer in the natural health and wellness industry. As a registered pharmacist, he has dedicated his career to bridging the gap between conventional medicine and natural healing, championing an integrative approach to health. With a passion for empowering individuals to take charge of their well-being through natural solutions, Foreman has become a highly sought-after speaker, author, and media personality in the fields of herbal and nutritional medicine. 
A Journey from Traditional Pharmacy to Natural Health 
David Foreman began his professional journey in the pharmaceutical field, earning his pharmacy degree from the University of South Carolina. His early career was grounded in traditional pharmacy, where he gained firsthand experience with the advantages and limitations of prescription medications. While working as a pharmacist, Foreman developed an interest in natural medicine and recognized the potential of holistic approaches to complement conventional treatments. This realization prompted him to shift his career towards natural health, paving the way for his future as The Herbal Pharmacist®. 
Foreman advocates for the responsible use of dietary supplements, herbal remedies, and lifestyle changes to enhance overall health. He believes that true wellness is achieved through a balanced approach that incorporates proper nutrition, physical activity, stress management, and supplementation when necessary. His philosophy revolves around four pillars of health: Diet, Exercise, Spirituality, and Supplementation—a framework that has guided his work and teachings for decades. 
A Leading Voice in Herbal and Nutritional Medicine 
With his distinctive background in both pharmacy and natural health, Foreman has made a name for himself as a trusted authority in the wellness community. He has written extensively about the benefits of natural ingredients and has contributed to various health publications. His skill in translating complex scientific information into easily understandable knowledge has made him a sought-after educator and speaker at conferences, health expos, and industry events around the world. 
As an advocate for evidence-based natural medicine, Foreman frequently collaborates with leading supplement manufacturers, research institutions, and health organizations. He has played a key role in educating both healthcare professionals and consumers about the latest advancements in herbal and nutritional science. His expertise covers a broad spectrum of health topics, including cognitive health, cardiovascular wellness, immune support, joint health, and active nutrition. 
Media Presence and Public Outreach 
David Foreman’s impact reaches well beyond the lecture hall. As a media personality, he has appeared on various television and radio programs, sharing his insights with a wide audience. His talent for simplifying complex health concepts has garnered him a dedicated following, establishing him as a reliable source for those seeking natural health solutions. 
Besides his media appearances, Foreman is a prolific writer. His blogs, articles, and educational content offer practical advice on how to incorporate herbal and nutritional strategies into daily life. Through his website, social media platforms, and public engagements, he continues to reach thousands seeking alternative and complementary ways to enhance their health. 
Advancing the Science of Natural Health 
Foreman is not only a proponent of natural medicine but also an advocate for advancing scientific research in the field. He collaborates closely with industry leaders to ensure the quality, efficacy, and safety of herbal and nutritional products. By remaining at the forefront of emerging research and trends, he helps shape the future of the natural health industry. 
One of Foreman’s main missions is to teach healthcare practitioners how to integrate natural solutions into conventional medicine. He believes that a holistic approach to health, supported by scientific validation, can result in better patient outcomes. His work has shaped a growing movement toward integrative healthcare, where natural and pharmaceutical approaches function together for optimal well-being. 
A Vision for the Future 
As The Herbal Pharmacist®, David is committed to his mission of promoting natural health and empowering individuals to make informed choices about their well-being. His vision is to continue educating, inspiring, and advocating for the responsible use of herbal and nutritional therapies. Through his speaking engagements, writing, and collaborations with industry leaders, he seeks to make natural health more accessible and widely accepted. 
With decades of experience in both pharmacy and natural medicine, Foreman serves as a bridge between two worlds, providing a unique perspective that resonates with both healthcare professionals and consumers. His steadfast commitment to enhancing health through natural means positions him as a pioneer in the field, and his efforts continue to shape the future of integrative wellness. 
Whether he is speaking at global health conferences, writing educational content, or appearing in media segments, David Foreman continues to be a passionate advocate for natural health solutions. His legacy embodies education, empowerment, and transformation—helping people lead healthier, more vibrant lives through the synergy of nature and science. 
Herbal Pharmacist Media provides science-driven content, branding, and educational media for the natural health, nutraceutical, and functional-food industries. We create high-impact blogs, videos, articles, presentations, social content, and strategic messaging that translate complex scientific research into consumer-friendly education and B2B marketing assets. Our mission is to empower brands, formulators, and consumers with clear, credible, and engaging natural-health communication. 
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In this engaging podcast episode, Liesl Bernard interviews David Foreman, a pioneer in the natural health and wellness industry. David shares his journey from being a traditional pharmacist to becoming an herbal pharmacist, emphasizing the importance of innovation in the nutraceutical industry, particularly through technology. He discusses the significance of women's health, the four pillars of health, and the role of spirituality in overall well-being. The conversation also explores the impact of AI on personalized nutrition and David's passion for travel and cultural experiences. He concludes with his aspirations for the future, including launching an animal health division and integrating more AI into his work. 
 
Chapters: 
00:00 The Journey from Pharmacist to Herbal Pharmacist 
02:52 Current Role and Industry Insights 
05:53 Global Perspectives on Nutraceuticals 
08:51 Innovation and Technology in Health 
12:04 Women’s Health: An Underserved Market 
14:55 The Four Pillars of Health 
20:04 Spirituality and Emotional Health in Wellness 
22:46 The Future of AI in Personalized Nutrition 
27:59 Embracing AI: Opportunities and Challenges 
30:43 Traveling the World: Cultural Experiences and Insights 
39:17 Future Aspirations: Expanding Horizons in Health and Wellness 
 
 
Contact David Foreman: 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/herbalpharmacist/ 
david@herbalpharmacist.com  
https://herbalpharmacist.com/ 
 
Contact Liesl Bernard: 
liesl@leadingforwellness.com 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lieslbernard/  
www.leadingforwellness.com 
 

EP 23 - The Entrepreneurial Spirit: Building a Functional Food Brand - Paul Frantellizzi

Paul is a passionate and motivational leader with results-oriented entrepreneurial vision and a unique ability to bring great value to every relationship and business opportunity. A former native of NYC, Paul has a 40+ year history and experience with start-ups, executive management, the organic food industry, two-term Mayor, Police Commissioner, filmmaker, and a national sales and marketing director for Mount Sinai Hospital in NYC. He currently leads the team@ Joyful Humans & Blue Toad® developing microdose delivery formats, MGBA support nutrient-rich supplements, protein bars, tinctures, powders, drinks, chocolate, etc., all utilizing Nootropics, Ayurvedic Botanicals, Hemp/ Cannabis/ Mushroom products.  
Prior to creating Joyful & the Toad, Paul was the Chief Innovation Officer for Stanley Brothers Cannabis (founders of Charlotte's Web), he founded the country's premiere co-manufacturer of functional-foods, GOOD SUPERFOODS® (winner of NUTRACON & SSW Editors Choice) and Superfood Innovation Lab® where he innovated for iconic clients such as; USANA, Melaleuca, NuSkin, NewWays, Young Living, Scentsy, Modere, Dr. Mercola, Onnit Nutrition, Walmart, Garden of Life, Kroger, Labrada Nutrition, and many more. Paul also founded the country’s first organic vending distribution company (NextGen Vending®), and developed that industry’s first PLA-based biodegradable water bottle (Earthpure Organics®).  
His beautiful family, core values, sense of community, and a powerful work ethic inspire Paul to be his best everyday 
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In this conversation, Liesl Bernard interviews Paul Frantalisi, a serial entrepreneur in the functional food space, about his journey from battling chronic Lyme disease to founding Joyful Humans, a brand focused on addressing metabolic health. Paul shares his experiences with alternative healing methods, the challenges of building a successful chocolate company, and the impact of a health crisis that led him to prioritize wellness. He discusses the importance of gut health, the role of psychedelics in his healing journey, and the innovative products Joyful Humans offers to promote homeostasis and balance in the body. 
 
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Chapters 
00:00 Introduction to Paul Frantelisi and Joyful Humans 
01:42 The Journey into Functional Foods 
04:32 From Struggles to Success: Building a Chocolate Company 
08:33 Navigating Challenges and Innovations in the Industry 
10:16 The Impact of COVID-19 on Business 
11:26 Health Crisis: A Wake-Up Call 
13:57 Healing Through Lifestyle Changes 
16:25 Exploring Spiritual Practices and Microdosing 
19:54 The Science of Happiness and Wellness 
21:02 The High of Running and Healing Journeys 
22:08 Inspiration Behind Joyful Humans 
24:06 The Power of the Name 'Joyful' 
25:39 Understanding Metabolic Dysfunction 
28:34 Biohacking for Health and Balance 
31:21 Spiritual Practices and Psychedelics 
34:37 The Vision and Strategy for Joyful Humans 
 
Contact Paul Frantellizzi: 
https://www.joyfulhumans.com/ 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulfrantellizzi/ 
https://www.instagram.com/joyful.humans/ 
Contact Liesl Bernard: 
liesl@leadingforwellness.com 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lieslbernard/  
www.leadingforwellness.com 

EP 22 - Navigating the Social Media Landscape: TikTok & Meta - Ari Gordon

In this conversation, Ari Gordon discusses the evolution of his company, Like and Likes, which helps brands grow on TikTok and Meta. He shares insights on the differences between the two platforms, the importance of effective content creation, and the costs associated with advertising on TikTok.
Ari also emphasizes the role of influencer marketing and the necessity of having a strategic approach to social media marketing, especially for CPG brands. The discussion highlights the changing landscape of consumer behavior and the growing importance of digital marketing in driving sales. 
 
Chapters 
00:00 Introduction to Like and Likes 
02:38 Understanding TikTok vs. Meta for CPG Brands 
06:01 Navigating Advertising Costs on TikTok 
10:54 The Backend of TikTok: A Competitor to Amazon 
13:37 Influencer Marketing Strategies on TikTok 
17:39 Agency vs. In-House Marketing: Finding the Right Fit 
20:21 The Evolving Landscape of Consumer Behavior 
21:09 Finding and Working with Influencers 
 
Contact Ari Gordon: 
https://likeandlikes.ai/ 
Ari@likandlikes.ai 
Instagram: arialgordon 
Contact Liesl Bernard: 
liesl@leadingforwellness.com 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lieslbernard/  
www.leadingforwellness.com 

EP 21 - From Medicine to Mushrooms: A Journey of Transformation - Sandra Carter

Dr. Sandra Carter, M.A., MPH, Ph.D. is a pioneer in preventative medicine, sports performance, and integrative health — and a visionary entrepreneur who transformed the functional mushroom industry. After decades in public health and disease prevention, Dr. Carter founded M2 Ingredients at the age of 55, bringing scientific rigor and mission-driven innovation to a field on the cusp of mainstream awareness. 
As Founder and Chief Visionary Officer of the largest functional mushroom supplier in the Western Hemisphere, Dr. Carter built M2 Ingredients with a clear conviction: while others in the industry debated marketing semantics, she focused firmly on science, research, and measurable impact. She anticipated the noise that would inevitably follow the mushroom boom — and knew that real data and clinical research would be the most powerful differentiator. 
Under her leadership, M2 has invested heavily in scientific validation, assembling the largest team of scientists in the industry and leading research on mushroom-derived compounds, gut health, immune support, and cognitive function. This unwavering commitment to science has positioned M2 as the go-to partner for brands seeking integrity, innovation, and efficacy. 
In parallel, Dr. Carter also built a national consumer brand — now sold in Whole Foods, Sam’s Club, Walmart, and Target — helping bring the benefits of functional mushrooms to millions. Widely recognized as a category architect, she continues to lead with clarity, compassion, and a steadfast belief in the power of fungi, food, and evidence-based wellness. 
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In this conversation, Liesl Bernard interviews Sandra Carter, founder of Om Superfoods and M2 Ingredients, discussing her journey from a successful career in preventive medicine to becoming an entrepreneur in the functional mushroom industry. Sandra shares key milestones in her business, the importance of focus and discipline, and the challenges she faced, including overcoming imposter syndrome. She emphasizes the significance of mentorship, community, and data-driven research in building a successful brand. The discussion also covers the health benefits of mushrooms, the future of the industry, and Sandra's personal practices for maintaining balance and intuition.  
 
Chapters 
00:00 Founding Success: Milestones in Entrepreneurship 
02:52 Transitioning Careers: From Medicine to Entrepreneurship 
05:54 Navigating Challenges: Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs 
08:49 Vision and Discipline: Keys to Business Success 
11:48 Building a Brand: The Journey of Om Superfoods 
14:50 Sales Strategy: The Hands-On Approach 
17:41 Overcoming Imposter Syndrome: Gaining Confidence 
20:50 Mentorship and Community: Learning from Others 
23:36 Data vs. Vision: Balancing Insights for Future Growth 
25:24 Articulating Confidence in Ideas 
26:25 The Impressive Mushroom Facility 
29:55 Health Benefits of Mushrooms 
34:12 The Future of Mushroom Products 
38:44 Cultivating Intuition and Connection 
43:20 Personal Growth and Lifelong Learning 
45:28 Finding Purpose in Life 
 
Contact Sandra Carter: 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandra-carter-3b6b3241/ 
https://ommushrooms.com/ 
https://m2ingredients.com/ 
Contact Liesl Bernard: 
liesl@leadingforwellness.com 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lieslbernard/  
www.leadingforwellness.com 
 

EP 20 - Unlocking the Power of Magnesium - Rafea Naffa

In this episode, Liesl Bernard interviews Rafea Naffa, PhD bioanalytical chemist, Scientific Advisor for AIDP, about the critical role of magnesium in human health.
They discuss the importance of magnesium for various bodily functions, its bioavailability, and the different forms of magnesium supplements available. Rafea emphasizes the need for daily magnesium intake, the symptoms of deficiency, and the impact of magnesium on brain health and hormonal balance.
The conversation also touches on recent research and clinical studies that highlight the benefits of magnesium supplementation, particularly in improving cognitive performance and sleep quality. 
 
Chapters 
00:00 Introduction to Magnesium and Its Importance 
02:00 The Role of Magnesium in the Body 
05:58 Bioavailability and Sources of Magnesium 
10:47 Understanding Magnesium Forms and Their Functions 
13:01 Magnesium's Impact on Brain Health 
16:00 Symptoms of Magnesium Deficiency 
21:41 Magnesium and Hormonal Balance 
25:40 Research and Clinical Studies on Magnesium 
29:40 Daily Magnesium Intake and Recommendations 
38:26 Personal Insights and Recommendations on Magnesium 
 
Contact Rafea Naffa: 
https://aidp.com/
rafea@aidp.com 
Contact Liesl Bernard: 
liesl@leadingforwellness.com 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lieslbernard/  
www.leadingforwellness.com 

EP 19 - Transforming Wellness and the Future of Nutrition and Mental Health - Tom Aarts

In this conversation, Liesl Bernard interviews Tom Aarts, a leading authority in the global wellness industry. Tom shares his journey in the nutrition sector, his passion for mental health, and his proud accomplishments, including the founding of the Nutrition Business Journal and the NBJ Summit. He discusses the importance of personalized nutrition, the impact of AI, and the growing trend of biohacking. Tom also reflects on the political landscape's influence on the wellness industry and shares insights on successful strategies for companies. He emphasizes the significance of mindset and spirituality in health and concludes with his aspirations for a legacy that contributes to solving major health issues like Alzheimer's. 
 
Chapters 
00:00 Introduction to Tom Aarts and His Journey 
02:59 The Importance of Nutrition and Mental Health 
06:05 Proud Accomplishments in the Wellness Industry 
08:48 Navigating Mergers and Acquisitions in Wellness 
12:09 The Future of Personalized Nutrition and AI 
14:59 Biohacking and Wellness Trends 
17:53 Political Landscape and Its Impact on Wellness 
20:40 Keys to Success in the Wellness Industry 
23:49 Personal Health Journey and Longevity Practices 
27:03 Mindset, Meditation, and Mental Health 
29:52 Legacy and Future Aspirations 
 
Contact Tom Aarts: 
https://www.nbjsummit.com/ 
Contact Liesl Bernard: 
liesl@leadingforwellness.com 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lieslbernard/  
www.leadingforwellness.com 

EP 18 - From Adversity to Empowerment: Lessons in Entrepreneurship - Lisa Odenweller

Lisa Odenweller is a pioneering wellness entrepreneur and the Founder & CEO of Kroma Wellness, a modern functional nutrition brand dedicated to simplifying healthy living for busy, high-performing lifestyles. With over two decades of experience in the health and wellness industry, Lisa has committed her career to making premium, science-backed nutrition accessible, delicious, and effortless.
Before launching Kroma, Lisa founded Beaming, one of Southern California’s most influential wellness café brands, renowned for its clean nutrition and culinary creativity. After successfully scaling Beaming into a multi-location business and exiting in 2018, she turned her focus to addressing a deeper problem: the overwhelming, flavorless, and unsustainable nature of many wellness routines. With Kroma, she introduced a first-of-its-kind 5-Day Whole Body Reset and a range of instant, shelf-stable, adaptogen-rich products that enable people to nourish themselves with joy, ease, and purpose—anytime, anywhere. Lisa’s ability to merge functional nutrition with indulgent flavor and modern lifestyle design has established her as a category innovator and a leading voice in the next era of wellness.
Beyond Kroma, Lisa is a mom of 3 grown kids, a passionate mentor to female founders, a frequent speaker on health and entrepreneurship, and a tireless advocate for making wellness more intuitive, empowering, and enjoyable 
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In this episode of the Leading for Wellness podcast, Liesl Bernard interviews Lisa Odenweller, founder of Kroma Wellness and Beaming, discussing her journey in the wellness industry, the challenges she faced, and the lessons learned from adversity. Lisa shares insights on self-worth, the importance of energy in business, and her innovative approach to nutrition with Kroma. The conversation emphasizes the significance of community support, personal growth, and the unique challenges female entrepreneurs face in fundraising. Lisa also highlights her daily rituals for maintaining positivity and energy. 
Chapters 
00:00 Introduction to Wellness and Entrepreneurship 
03:06 The Journey of Beaming: A Superfood Cafe 
05:56 Lessons from Adversity: Overcoming Challenges 
08:51 Self-Reflection and Healing: The Path to Growth 
11:51 Building Self-Worth and Confidence 
14:54 The Importance of Energy in Business 
17:38 Fundraising Insights for Female Entrepreneurs 
20:54 Creating a Nutrition System: The Chroma Brand 
23:30 Daily Rituals for Energy and Positivity 
26:34 The Power of Community and Support 
29:22 Innovations and Future Vision for Chroma 
32:36 Conclusion and Special Offers 
Contact Lisa Odenweller: 
https://kromawellness.com/ 
https://www.instagram.com/kromawellness/ 
Contact Liesl Bernard: 
liesl@leadingforwellness.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lieslbernard/  
www.leadingforwellness.com